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Evelyn K. Brunswick's avatar

I think the issue is certainly one of definitions. As a philosophy student I thought about this specific issue quite a lot, and got to a stage where I think I have the answer. The definition of 'genuine' nothing is really just that - absolute nothing. It does not contain the possibility of 'something'. If it did, it would not strictly speaking be 'nothing'.

Point one. Point two then acknowledges that there is clearly something (it doesn't matter what the something is, but there is something) - even if it's only me, that's still something. The fact that I am typing this is 'something'. That's self-evident.

Point three is acknowledging that 'something' cannot come from 'nothing' (which is the definition issue).

Point four then suggests that, therefore 'there must always have been something' - from a certain point of view the default state should be nothing, but it isn't. Logically, then, there can't possibly be a 'beginning' - because there can't one moment be 'nothing' and then the next moment 'something' - 'something' must have always existed. Thus, whatever it is that the something originated from is not nothing, but is itself something, with the power of creation - so the something is self-generative.

My final point five was a bit weird, and I suggested that the only thing 'relative to the nothing' which can exist is 'possibility' - meaning all of this 'something' is actually not a 'real thing' itself, but a 'possibility'. Meaning possibility is the only thing that can exist.

Nowadays I'm not too sure about point five. I think if something exists then everything exists, just not necessarily at the same time or in the same place, since that would create incompatibilities. To resolve that issue of infinity, the different possibilities for the arrangements/configurations of 'the something' must be separated - thus we get stuff like parallel worlds.

A deeper additional thought to all this is the action of 'time' on the something. I've come to think of time as the fundamental force - without some generative principle there wouldn't be any something. Time, then, is this generative principle - although it's probably not 'time' as most people understand it.

Anyway - there's my philosophical two pence there. This idea of nothing vs. something is one of my favourite philosophical questions - I'm glad I'm not the only one!

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

A few thoughts: I believe the Universal question is "Do I exist?" I believe this question drives all the myriad creative endevors of time, space, and experience. Every atom, molecule, and quantum event asks this primary question. Of course it all exists. The subsequent question is: "How" or in what way? The quantum dusts share the questions and answers, and life was born of this exchange.

Heh, heh... Even if the Universe didn't exist, wouldn't it exist as something that doesn't exist...

A lot of persons believe in magic - or gods - as magnificent large scale events. My model is "All" of life is stardust, observing itself in endless observance of the question ...

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